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Offline flyfifer

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Camping Cots
« on: April 01, 2018, 16:07:24 PM »
Keeping up the excitement about beds/cots I dug around eBay for the ex China offerings and came up with these ---

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Folding-Camping-Cot-Aluminium-Alloy-Off-Ground-Foldable-Bed-with-Pillow-Case-/112596954220?skus=Model:1%20*%20Gray%20Promoted%20Cot&varId=413009994030 ex China £59.99
Direct from China “Promoted” £59.99 version has new legs (like Helinox?). Weight is given as 1900gms, 38cm x 16cm packed, bed size 190 x 70 (substantially bigger than the “norm”). 7075 aluminium. Load bearing 110kg –so not a huge increase in load capacity despite? being a much bigger bed.


https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ultralight-Compact-Folding-Aluminium-Alloy-Camping-Tent-Cot-Bed-with-Carry-Bag-/112662526463?skus=Color:Blue&varId=413125062020
Standard size, ex China, same seller £38.99.

Direct from China “Original” £39.99 version, has the ring style feet with double poles across the centre of the bed. Weight is given as 1680gms, 41cmx12cm packed, 180 x 58 bed size. Load bearing 100kg. 7001 aluminium.


https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aluminium-Alloy-Folding-Outdoor-Bed-Garden-Patio-Sun-Lounger-Picnic-Camping-Cot-/152570412338
£41.75 UK seller. 2015happydeal


https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Camping-Bed-Ultralight-Folding-Durable-Sleeping-Cot-Fast-Easy-Setup-Portable-/253351817999
£55 from Dublin seller.

Dublin stocked, £55 offering has the ring style feet with double poles across the centre of the bed. Weight is given as 1450gms,(other offerings quote 1680gms), 41cmx12cm packed, 180 x 58 bed size. Load bearing 150kg –which, again, is out of kilter with other offerings, which are 100kg. Seller is based in Malaysia.


I found another UK seller offering the ubiquitous ex China design for £39.99.
EBay item 152152571687, vendor seaflow-uk

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTRALIGHT-FOLDING-CAMPING-COT-BED-with-BAG-hiking-caravan-WEST-MIDLANDS-BASED-/152152571687
The vendor confirmed it comes with two double bow cross struts.

It does look like care needs to be taken that the cot comes with Eight cross rods to make Six cross struts -- two being double bow.



Thermarest New Ultralight cot. 1195gms, 43cm x 13cm packed, 183 x 61 bed size, 158kg load capacity.
Thermarest Superseeded version 1600gms ( new legs on new version), 45cm x 12cm packed, 183 x61 bed size, 158kg load bearing.

100kg = 220lbs =  15.7 stones.  110kg = 242lbs = 17.3 stones.  158kg = 347lbs = 24.8 stones.

Everything I have read does however suggest that the Helinox offering is the very best ---- but at a price premium , even over Thermarest -- see Craig's commentary.


« Last Edit: April 10, 2018, 12:54:57 PM by flyfifer »

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Re: Camping Cots
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2018, 17:36:36 PM »
I paid £30 for my copy. Very impressed with it. Sure it was UK stock via ebay.
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Re: Camping Cots
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2018, 12:49:13 PM »
I contacted the Dublin vendor ref the spec ---

" your specification shows a weight of 1450 grams and a load capacity of 150kg.
(Other similar cots give 1680 grams weight and 100kg capacity).
Is your spec correct ??

and the answer was ---
Hello,
Thanks for the interest. Yes, this is correct, our camping bed designed for easy carry (light weight) and up to 150kg load bearing. "

I am not convinced !!
In mitigation the images do show two "double bow" cross struts. Some sellers images show only one.


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Re: Camping Cots
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2018, 11:19:41 AM »
Possibly the last comments from me on the topic , you might be glad to hear  :P!

The new Thermarest cot legs, from specification photos, appear to be a half moon design rather than the previous full circle legs.
(The standard ex China legs being the full circle type).
This Thermarest leg design change might simply be a reduction in plastic/cost, weight loss but I can’t imagine it changes the footprint much.

It does not take a lot of imagination to visualise the plastic legs, of any of the cots rubbing a ground sheet as the occupier of the bed wriggles about, eventually causing terminal damage to the groundsheet.

Thermarest sold “coasters”, to fit on the circle legs, and act as load pads. They probably said for soft ground rather than reducing groundsheet wear.

Whatever legs are in use some kind of covering, on a ground sheet, seems prudent .
The best advertised price I found for the Thermarest was from Twist Moto at £170.

I have modified the early posting as I went along so you might want to take it from the top again.
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Re: Camping Cots
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2018, 13:02:05 PM »
 ;D the eBay vendor happydeal2015 reduced their postage to £0.99 making it the cheapest UK supplied cot.
After much communication (along and across don't seem to translate very well!) they confirmed that their offering has the two double struts.
happydeal2015 offers the "make an offer" option so after a bit of "too and fro" they accepted £34.
Cot ordered and en route.

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Re: Camping Cots
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2018, 22:25:54 PM »
I just bought one of these - http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/oex-ultralite-folding-cot-p429385 - when they were on offer £55 delivered.

I know you can get them cheaper but I don’t do eBay and there’s a gooutdoors branch 20 miles away if I’d wanted to return it (and no quibbles). I noticed that some of the cheaper options have ‘only’ four legs.

It seems very sturdy for my 90kgs, comfortable, light and packs down small. I’m very pleased with it, I just need to get out and use it ‘in anger’!
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Re: Camping Cots
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2018, 14:59:24 PM »
I read this with interest as I gave up camping years ago due to my bad back.  A few folks had suggested a camping cot but I preferred B&B's.  I fancied a bit of camping this year and this thread was the motivation to try a camping cot. 

Weighing nearly 100kgs (though it is falling) I needed something decent but not crazy expensive.

I eventually took a punt on one of these https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B076J4NJ8Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 which in all honesty looks a bit like a knockoff of the much more expensive Helinox cot.  Having not used the Helinox I can't speak to whether this is better.  But having done 2 nights on it with my little thermarest mat on top of it I can report no back problems.  So job done.

It is light weight packs up pretty small and goes up really easy.  Once up it is really stable and easily held my weight.


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Re: Camping Cots
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2018, 16:32:54 PM »
RevingRevs def looks like a Helinox clone.
My purchase gets its first outing at Strontian --- hopefully it will be comfy !

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Re: Camping Cots
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2019, 19:53:29 PM »
Flicking through LargewayRound's movements -----
I chanced upon this thread, again. Having persevered for several nights camping
I finally gave up my Cot this year as being impractical.
It was great when you first got on it but ----
it just did not like being exited.
The ring mounting system was just not up to being rolled onto and off resulting in cross bars popping off and discomfort.
The night I finally "chucked it aside" I had a great sleep on my mat !
Cots not recommended by me.
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Re: Camping Cots
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2019, 20:09:05 PM »
I tried one, just the once as I could not get on with it because I tend to turn from one side to the other when sleeping and after the second time falling out of it I decided it had to go.


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Re: Camping Cots
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2019, 19:36:11 PM »
Next camping trip I will let you sit on the Proper Helinox Cot , its very well made in every way .

Even a big lad can roll / sit on edge , stand or whatever ... BUT the real thing was an eye watering price .

Used it about 6 times , multiple night camping trips  all with total comfort .

This is the nearest one to the spec I bought https://www.amazon.co.uk/Helinox-CONVERTIBLE-Lightweight-Collapsible-Cot/dp/B019HEE5A0

I have also seen the cheap knockoff chairs (helinox design) legs bent in half after one use .

I have a proper helinox chair (As I need all the strength for my weight)  but did buy a cheap table
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Re: Camping Cots
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2019, 11:33:49 AM »
An absolute requirement of a cot is being able to sit on the side.
Clearly the ex China clones do not allow that and all cots are not equal even though they might look similar.

Your Helinox seems to be the One that works !